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No gay marriage in The Sims 2? July 2, 2004 - by Ian Bogost WCG friend and cool cat journalist Clive Thompson wrote an article for Slate a while ago about gay marriage in videogames. Now he's noticed that the Maxis FAQ on the game no longer talks about gay marriage. Sez Clive,
I wonder if Maxis has changed its mind on this -- or whether it's still in there, but the company is just trying to downplay it a bit? It could also be a simple editorial mistake...
Anybody know? Comment from isaac on July 4, 2004
I've been told, at one point there had been a feature to set gender-preference for each sim which has since been pulled. Most likely the decision was made to let gender preference result from player actions as in the original, including marriage. Comment from Ian Bogost on July 4, 2004
FYI, Isaac suffered the wrath of MT comment posting errors, so some of his comments may have been snipped. He sent me this by email, and I'm pasting it because he offers a different insight at the end: At one point there was a feature to specify gender preference for a sim, but this has since been removed. It would be my hope that attraction, and therefore marriage, will be handled in the same gender agnostic fashion as in the original. Isaac, I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Wouldn't same-sex marriage necessarily depend on some kind of a gender preference, whether user selectable or not? Comment from isaac on July 5, 2004
I meant the game itself is agnostic. Players encourage amorous relationships ad hoc and orientation is manifest through these actions. By simply not establishing rules to govern sexual preference, the game allows more freedom to create relationships. If marriage is presented similarly to child rearing in the original, I imagine sex would only determine the wedding costume or their physical relationship before the altar (bride stage right, groom stage left, or randomized if same sex). Win:win. Avoid both politics and adding unnecessary gender bias features. Comment from Ian Bogost on July 5, 2004
Isaac -- I don't understand how ad hoc relationships could replace sexual orientation. What is the difference between a close male friend and a legal partner, from the game's perspective? In other words, doesn't a simulation of marriage have to go beyond the graphic skin on the character to be called a simulation of marriage? And for that matter, wouldn't in-game marriage of any kind need to be more than just a cutscene? Comment from William Huber on July 6, 2004
If I understand it correctly, all Sims are essentially bisexual, and a history of intimacy between any two characters, regardless of gender, can trigger romantic behaviour. Comment from Ian Bogost on July 6, 2004
Ah, now THAT's a revelation. William, isn't that essentially the same as saying that all Sims are asexual? Comment from Walter on July 6, 2004
That's interesting. But are all (as in all-all) Sims actually bisexual, or only the player controlled ones? I'm assuming that the sequel, like the first, has a set of NPC Sims. Comment from Mieke on July 6, 2004
i was the 'discoverer' of the alteration of the change in the FAQ. EA told me that it has been removed because it is uncertain at this point. though i don't see why they would have posted it on there in the first place, if it was uncertain to begin with. anywho, i'm writing my thesis on gender in the sims and have basically concluded that sims are ungendered (except in terms of looks) as long as they don't want to get married. the issue of bisexuality and all that is really not that interesting, it's all open ended and up to the player right up untill they want their sims to get serious and get married. i can't agree with the agnostic comment because there was one rule in the old game and that is that same-sex sims could NOT get married. my guess is they won't make you choose a sexual orientation for your sim, but they will allow same-sex marriage without making a big fuss out of it as to not offend to general public. divorce is also included in the new version while in the old version sims were polygamous, so i don't see why they wouldn't change this at the same time. we'll see, Comment from isaac on July 6, 2004
William, yes thank you; my 4am posts are often murky. Also, I'd forgotten much about the new features and depth of the Sims2 - birth to death simulation, etc. Things cannot be as straighforward as I suggested. Even without explicit orientation, Sims now have a concept of gender, get physically pregnant, etc. I still believe marriage may be rather trivial to implement without gender bias but wonder how children birth and rearing will be handled for gay couples. Comment from isaac on July 6, 2004
Comment from William Huber on July 6, 2004
Well, Ian, Sims *are* asexual. Or rather, they don't have sexual desire as we have it or the apparata of desire as it exists by biological, historical and social determinations - instead. But the mechanisms of sexual desire in the original Sims wasn't strongly informed by gender or any body-centered elements: it was the result of intimacies that could be read as friendship or non-sexual affection in our terms. If your Sim liked anyone enough, it counted as love, and marriage became a possibility. Mieke, I was thinking myself the Sims don't have gender, but then I thought it really isn't true in some sense. Remember, Sims are pretty much their skins (OK, there's a software object the generates behaviours underneath it, but those behaviours include the ability to interact with specific objects - and the fact that wardrobe is gender-specific and a property of the Sims world, not the Sims themselves, suggests that gender is part of the Sims construction.) To me, what is interesting is how they model and simulate human sexual identity - the choices they make to create a simulation and delineate sexual behaviors is always going to be a stance in a still-contested discussion about the nature and roots of that behaviour. Having an "orientation flag" that is set early in the game would be a commitment to a nativist position about sexuality, while having an emergent identity would be a commitment to a more fluid social or existential model. And, whatever position that EA defines as canonical, I wonder how long it will be until other behaviours can be engineered by a critical community of play. Comment from Mieke on July 7, 2004
William, I still think Sims gender only runs skin deep in the old version. Yes there is a difference in wardrobe choices, but other than that sims of different genders basically have the same functions and same possibilities for interaction with objects and other sims (excluding marriage). I had my one guy sim jumping into his female lovers arms in slow motion, this sort of behaviour is usually shown the other way around. They are even offered the same jobs and career tracks. One thing I can't figure out however, is how game play options change when the personality (outgoing, etc.) is changed, I noticed that while some sims can be rude others simply don't offer that option. It'll be interesting to see how those personality traits are going to be defined or developed in sims 2 anywho, or whether we can just 'decide' how clean they are. Isaac, are you being sarcastic? Comment from isaac on July 7, 2004
No Mieke! I'm being sincere. I didn't know that same sex couples could not marry in the original. It's been quite a long while since I've played it, but thought I'd had a gay marriage there. Apparently not. Most of my Sims tended to be libidinous bisexuals so memories are easily confused. Comment from Mia on July 8, 2004
I'd agree that the original Sims game featured Sims that had the possibility to be asexual/bisexual/hetero/homo sexual. It all depended on how you set up relations--the primary mediating factor was friendship--Sims pretty much refused to get intimate with strangers. :) They were also pretty gender neutral other than marriage (which only heterosexual couples could have-- same sex sims could get intimate and adopt babies, but could only 'move in' with each other). I noticed that the animations for pretty much all activities (kissing; proposing; dancing; etc) were the same for both genders. If you're interested I wrote a paper for GLAAD about the Sims and sexuality- it's at http://www.glaad.org/publications/ I'd be pretty disappointed if the same sex options were removed in Sims 2, but i saw the lack of (official) gay marriage as a way to avoid outright controversy, but through gameplay players could pretty much do what they wanted. Comment from Ian Bogost on July 8, 2004
I think what interests me more than whether or not gay Sims can "officially" marry in the sequel is how sexual preference works in the Sims 2 -- if at all. William claimed that sims are asexual, which is true of course, but what I'm asking is how sexuality might be simulated in the sequel. Obviously, we don't know, but it's a nice way to bide the time until the game is released. I guess a better question might be, what would you change about the way sexuality works in the original Sims? Comment from Mieke on July 8, 2004
Mia, I doubt they'd take the entire same-sex relationship option out because it is one of the reasons why (some say) the game is so popular. I hope they've just taken it out of the FAQ and left the same-sex marriage in. It's kinda cowardly to keep it quiet, but we'll see, Ian, tough question. There's so much controversy already about how sexuality 'works' I can't really say what the best solution would be. I've had friends who say they've always known, but I've also known people who have been 'told' all their lives (AND felt they've always known) so who's to say? I'm pretty curious about the development of Sim's personalities in general. It'll be interesting to see what side the game might have taken in the whole nature/ nurture debate. I wonder if we are still allowed to create the personality of the Sim or if that's something that has to grow. In a way it all sounds awfully complex to me, I know plenty of players who'd rather stick to building houses.... Comment from Ian Bogost on July 9, 2004
Mieke > There's so much controversy already about how sexuality 'works' I can't really say what the best solution would be. Right. Certainly I wouldn't argue that the Sims 2 would strive for an "accurate" representation of human sexuality. Rather, its designers would have to make some decisions -- some rather hefty ones -- about how to choose to represent sexuality. I agree that the introduction of Sim genetics may play into this. I'm hopeful that the introduction of Sim Nature does not entirely upset the value of Nurture, especially since Nurture is essentially the one verb that describes what the player does in the game. Comment from jamie on July 11, 2004
Comment from Onyxanndrianna on July 15, 2004
This whole issue of "gender priorities" is plain annoying. It doesn't sound like an "editorial mistake", rather an "Oops! Better conform!" If they spoke about it in the first place, why would the take back their own words? For one, with all the hoopla in our dismal real life, gay marriage does not seem to be widely respected. And it seems if it can take down the approval rating of a Senetor because they vote against legalizing the commitment, then what would it do for the sale of a videogame? In Maxis' defense, to the conformed public this is probably a good thing. People who want to have a perfect world (har-har). Rather, the "all equal marriage" supporters can cry out prejudice; they are a minority. With this, less people who would buy the new game (and maybe a lawsuit or two). I hope Maxis decides not to change the game. There are plenty of Simmers who are more then happy just to stick with Sims 1 series because of the freedom of choice. If we can't have a perfect world, why disrupt our Sims world? This game is not about politics, and if people want to shelter their children, don't buy the game. Comment from leah on July 19, 2004
i read an interview with the maxis general manager and he said that there was go to be same gender marriages in the sims 2. Comment from Mieke on July 21, 2004
Comment from Brian on July 22, 2004
One way around the nature-nurture issue is to allow sexual orientation to be an option when designing the character and to allow orientation to develop as in Sims '1'. Anything as complicated as sexual orientation is likely to have more than one cause in any event. I see the real problem with Sims (1 & 2) is the lack of a provision for close friendships, especially within orientation. To take a relationsip closer it is necessary to fall in love. As relationships develop I would like to see options that can take the characters towards different kinds of 'closeness' as there relationship score went up. Some might become romantic (with or without sex), some might become emotionally intimate (life long friends), Some might just hang out. Perhaps the choices might be related to a character's goals. For example a family oriented character might get married if they became romantically involved. Other family characters might bet married if they developed a strong but not romantic relationship with someone with the same family orientation? Getting too complicated? Some characters might get married only if their relationship scores were very high.
Comment from Onyxanndrianna on July 22, 2004
I need some Aleve... The way I see it, they tried to make the game as simple as possible without blowing up your motherboard. If you pay close attention to the game, the AI format of all the characters is actually simple. They go to the bathroom when they want to, they eat if they want to and they have fun if they want to. This is a truely well-organized system just for the fact that they also fall in love if they want to. When Maxis built the coding for the sim life, they made it very loose. ANY gender sim can fall in love with ANY other gender sim... The whole sim life was derived from a very flexable freedom of choice standpoint. Anything can happen in the sims... I mean, sheesh, you can get abducted by aliens... Does this mean we need to get the believers and nonbelievers together to roll that through, too? If they were to try to take the game to the extreme where the characters, not the Simmies, could choose what to do with their love life They would make such a complex game that, sooner or later, won't need people to play it. ;) However if they took it way, the idea of "choice" in the game is slightly blown. At this point, why have the "free will" option? That would take the choice away from them to do what they want to do. They can (and will if you don't pay attention) fall in love with same-genders no matter how it goes. Comment from Arjan on August 24, 2004
This is a portion of the chat transcripts taken from the official site: Kelly (Aug 19, 2004 6:16:46 PM) MaxisHunter! (Aug 19, 2004 6:16:46 PM) That won't answer the question if two male sims can marry, but at least they can be gay, as in the Sims 1. Comment from Daniel on September 6, 2004
WE WANT GAY PEOPLE TO GET MARRIED!!!
Comment from Simple Mexican Boy on September 22, 2004
Ok, I haven't read all you guys have posted before, so please excuse me if this was answered already, I was wondering, when 2 male sims get married, can they have kids in the normal way, I mean, Men don't get praigned, will they have to adopt babies like in the original one. I really would like them to have kids normally, not to get praigned, but something like mix their dna and inherit their characteristics, it would be totally cool, hope you can answer me, thanks! Comment from gay simmer on October 1, 2004
the only way two males, or even two females for that matter, can have a bio-baby together is in create a family mode. First you create your two sims (same gender) once that is done, go back and edit one, changing it to the opposite sex. once that is done, you can then create a baby between the two sims in create a family. After you have created the baby, go back and edit the sim whose gender you changed, and change it back. this is what I did so that my sim-self and my sim-husband could have a bio-sim baby. Comment from gay simmer on October 1, 2004
the only way two males, or even two females for that matter, can have a bio-baby together is in create a family mode. First you create your two sims (same gender) once that is done, go back and edit one, changing it to the opposite sex. once that is done, you can then create a baby between the two sims in create a family. After you have created the baby, go back and edit the sim whose gender you changed, and change it back. this is what I did so that my sim-self and my sim-husband could have a bio-sim baby. Comment from suzannah on October 29, 2004
Please please tell me! How do you go back and edit a family in TS2? You mention it off handedly and i can find NOONE who knows how. Please share your knowlege with another gay simmer! Comment from nonchalance on November 1, 2004
Suzannah: You need to do it before you exit the CaF mode. NOW go play the game. Unfortunately, there's no way to do it after the sims are in game. Comment from Robert on November 10, 2004
If you are looking for a gay marriage, check out http://www.mygaysimlife.com. It's the first gay virtual avatar world. It just launched a couple days ago but I hear they will be allowing gay simulated marriage. Comment from r3d1p5 on November 15, 2004
Comment from Mistress of the Night on November 25, 2004
There can be gay Marrige in the Sims when you frist create a Family I had two Males live together and said they where spose's. That worked for me. Comment from Renee on December 3, 2004
Does anyone know if the private schools don't let in the children of lesbian couples? I keep on inviting the Headmaster over but he always leaves before he get in the door and he says that we are not hte kind of family that should be in private school. I was wondering if he just didn't like tha house or if it is because my couple is gay????? Comment from anonymous on December 8, 2004
well as a joke in the game of sims my cuzin had a gay couple in so i guess they do let gay marriage in the game. I also think that if they didnt they should have gay marriage becuz there is nothing rong with it thats al i have 2 say Comment from lola on December 27, 2004
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Comment from Brushfire on February 8, 2005
*sigh* If they're going to have gay marriages, then so be it. If someone wants to use their money on a game that has been PRE-PROGRAMMED and the complain, well I pity them for their surplus of stupidity. Gays, bisexuals, lesbians asexuals and straight people are a part of life, get over it. Anyways why in heck do you care? If its what you believe, they're going to he **, not you. Last; you say there should be no gay, lesbian or bi interaction when there is already a feature that lets you have virtual sex? God... the weight of the individual stupidity of a large percent of our population holds the whole human race back. I could say more, but I'm not sure it would be appropriate for this place. Comment from Liz on March 3, 2005
I have been playing the sims 2 for about 6 hours, my female character has a female best friend and I cannot even flirt with her. She is sleeping with 4 men and I think she is a nympho, but I cannot even flirt with a female. I don't think that there are gay and lesbian relationships in the game at all and I'm thoroughly disappointed. What I'd like to know is what makes them think it is okay for a woman or man to sleep with about as many people as they want to, but not okay for same sex relationships... Comment from Sterin McCollis on March 5, 2005
Liz, I played Don Lothario and he had a homosexual relationship (beside hetero ones.) It was possible to kiss, to flirt and to have an "techtelmechtel" (german for love affair.) So - homosexuality is implemented - but i keep trying to check how someone can establish relationships... Comment from Jessie on March 12, 2005
Comment from Stella on March 12, 2005
Sims are origionally bisextual--if you use the boolprop testincheatsenabled true cheat code and shift+click on a person you can display their gender pref, which for all sims is at first "none" (i'm talking sims 2, of course) Jessie: divorcing sims is impossible on the origional, but on the sims 2 you just need to drive down the relationship enough. The easiest way to do that is to have one of the sims cheat on the other. Comment from April on March 12, 2005
You can have a baby by ANYONE in the household using a hack called the Inseminator I have two lesbian couples they both have a couple kids and one is elder now and their kids heading to college tomorrow :0) IF you have Sims 2 University you can use the EP version of this hack and even have a baby by the Grim Reaper :0) I have a Sim who has twins by him You can see the album here if you however have Not added University you can use the 1.5 DEST or 1.6 DEST versions and have single baby twins with anyone on the lot even a casual visitor :0) or alien babies either twins or single
Hope this helps Comment from April on March 13, 2005
QUOTE/That won't answer the question if two male sims can marry, but at least they can be gay, as in the Sims 1.
Comment from Joejoe on March 18, 2005
I just got SIMS 2 UNIVERSITY and I can confirm that they do have "gay" "bisexual" couples in the game. I wanted to see what would happen if i "kissed" one of the guys "hoping they would fight" instead they ++ and started to fall inlove. I then went and got another guy to kiss one of the gay guys and guess what? THE OTHER GUY GOT MAD! AND SLAPPED HIM! so gay couples are in Sims 2 and it's funny as hell!!!!!!!!! Comment from sky on March 26, 2005
Comment from morgan on March 30, 2005
to answer the question of divorce...if you don't want to go through all of that other stuff, just put one of the spouses in a pool and take out the ladders....it's the old school way ;) Comment from holleyt on April 6, 2005
you gotta be kiddin me that is taking it way outta porportion screw buyingthe new 1 that is offending!! Comment from D-Dude on April 25, 2005
"Sims are origionally bisextual" Sims are not originally bisexual, Sims are asexual in fact. They will have a desire to "get in love", but it will never point out what gender they like. Point is, your Sims in not interested in Girl/Boy Sims, until you make your Sims having close *romantic* social interactions with another Sim. This is where the line lies between a good male friend for a male and a gay lover, the first you drink with, chat with, have fun with, and in times of need, you can share a bed with him, but you won't kiss him, or worse, that's stuff to do with the second. So there's no point in saying Sims are this or that, Sims are just falling in love with who they're told to. Comment from David Baker on April 30, 2005
The sims 2 has gay marriage, believe it or not. I made an old lady, and a young lady fall in love and get married. It is possible Comment from Rachael on June 8, 2005
Comment from Jes on June 8, 2005
Sims 2 cheats i no r To put the cheats in press shift + ctrl + c Kaching 4 1000 simoleons Comment from Danyetta on June 14, 2005
I want to know how to make a Sim who's married be divorced. I tried making the Sim cheat on each other three times but they are still married. What else can you do? Comment from Alev on June 16, 2005
Danyetta, The cheating spouse needs to be caught in order to have the divorce option available. Otherwise the sim that gets cheated on has no clue. Divorce also becomes an option if the two sims argue alot (this is easy for the mean sims, but nice sims won't argue for no reason with their loved ones) there are also hacks that allow easier breakups. Try searching modthesims2.com under game hacks Comment from Maralyn on June 17, 2005
I was on ea.com and I saw a picture of a pregnant teen. I didn't think this was possible on the sims, but she had acne and only teens get it. Also there was a pic of teens woohooing. Anyone know what's up with that? Comment from Archadia on June 24, 2005
Maralyn: I dunno. Anyone here? do you people know how that happens? It would really help with one of my plotlines if I could get a teen pregnant. Comment from jonno on July 11, 2005
what was the pregnant teen wearing, dress, t-shirt, jumper or what. Comment from j brizzo on July 27, 2005
Comment from Nancy on July 30, 2005
I think there shouldn't be gay marriages allowed on the sims 2 or even gay relations. That's just sick! Comment from Nancy on July 30, 2005
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Comment from *Rebecca* on July 30, 2005
How do get a teen pregnant????????? I think the sims should allow teen pregnacy because it's apart of life. Maxis should make like a Family Expansion for the sims2 and like have dramatic things happen to them. Comment from on July 30, 2005
FOR DANYETTA
Comment from Lucy on August 25, 2005
Whats the difference between twinsr2cute and twinzr2cute??? write back
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Comment from Addie on September 4, 2005
I have read all of the post and none of them help me with my prolbem PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Comment from Whittnie on September 6, 2005
When I want a teen to become pregnant in my game, I do this. First off, if your getting a teen pregnant, the other person has to be an adult. So, if the teen is a girl, the male has to be an adult. I put in the cheat boolProp testingCheatEnabled true and then spawn the L and D creator. I get the male pregnant by the teen (it's a little funny, but I always speed it up so I don't have to watch a pregnant dude, heh) The family tree always comes out right, so it works.
Comment from Jade on September 11, 2005
Also, Nancy, I should let you know three things: 2. You should also learn correct grammar and spelling. 3. Gays can't be 'normal' because no person on earth it 'normal'. Everyone is different, and I personally like it that way. The world would be very boring if everyone did/said/thought/looked the same way, now wouldn't it? I have noticed a progressive imaturity level on this topic. This is what happenes when you let kids on the internet without supervision. Comment from annie on September 11, 2005
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Comment from Whittnie on September 13, 2005
Nancy, if you don't like gay people, don't create any. Simple as that.
Comment from Addie on September 15, 2005
I think gay people are WRONG the y are just WRONG and Sick!!! THat is if they are human,but if they are sims and you think it is gross just don't do it!!!!!
Comment from Addie on September 16, 2005
Sorry for asking so many questions, but how do you make sims with green skin please update me in less than 24 hours!!!!
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Comment from Stella on September 21, 2005
Okay umnum. It's been a while since I've been on this site . . . wow. The same questions are being asked about Sims 2 cheats that were months ago. If you people want me to I'll copy and paste my usual explanation of the boolprop cheatcode and the tombstone of life and death. Also the teen pregnancy, despite what I said last March, has me intrigued because I have a plotline going on where I need to get a teen pregnant. But I can't do wn lo ad stuff. Anyone have a cheat or something that they can 100% guarente will work?
Happy simming! This concludes my insanely long comment :D Comment from Addie on September 22, 2005
to get your sim pregnate Comment from The girl above on September 22, 2005
Also I am very sorry for the people who are in Rita's path if you are don't think you are the only scared and suffering. Comment from Stella on September 22, 2005
Okay so I got this cheat for getting teens pregnant: S2L_TEEN_WOOHOO_PREG_TEEN could someone tell me if it works i cant test it out cos I dont have the sims 2 on this computer Thanks! Comment from Stella on September 22, 2005
I'm also going to, just really quickly, state my oppinion on the gay marriage thing. Huggles Comment from Addie on September 23, 2005
Comment from Demi on September 24, 2005
boolprop testingcheatsenabled true shift click on a sim of ANY age and select display autonomous sexual preference. This will show what sexual preference your sim has without any direction from you. It can either be male, female or both male and female. Since this can be viewed at any age before they become old enough to flirt etc, it shows they are programmed to follow a sexual preference if left unguided. Comment from Stella on September 24, 2005
Actually, Demi, the preference is always "none" until YOU have them flirt or whatever with someone else. Then the sim's preference will be whatever that first sim's gender was. I've never come across it changing or anything or being a specific gender before that first flirt Comment from Starr on September 24, 2005
I just figured a bunch of really really cool things out! Like how gay people can have woohoo, and how you can control you relationships with people and your sims moods!! With that boolprop testingcheatsenabled true code and it's simple to do. All you have to do is enter the code in while your in the neighborhood then go into your sims house. Then when your playing as your sim you can control their mood and relations by moving the bar under the word. EX: Like they have an Energy bar. You just click the bar and you can move it back and forth. Same with relationships. Try it!! Comment from luz on September 27, 2005
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Comment from Stella on September 28, 2005
yes you can get twins naturally and you can use this cheat: intprop chanceoftwins 100 which works about 50% of the time. twins are cute but i personally find the game more fun if i just let them have whatever kids they will, but enjoy thyself Comment from Wolf on September 29, 2005
Hey listen I live in Australia so the sims 2 isn't out yet but I would love to know how to get two men/women to have a kid in the sims unleashed. I already know you can get two gays married but how do you make them have a kid? Please tell me!
Comment from Wolf on September 29, 2005
In the sims I have tow guys called Maria and Margret and they where playing in the love bed together. It's disgusting in a way yet also funny. P.S The two guys I have, well their relationship meter went over 100 I didn't think that was possible. Comment from Stella on September 29, 2005
haha sims 1 dredging up ancient history are we? no sorry. Gay people can't have kids in the sims 1, but they can adopt, and their adopted kid looks like their real kid so it works out. Comment from Sammy on September 29, 2005
Please help! The Headmaster will come over, but as soon as he gets out of the car, he says something about this family "not being fit" and leaves! What am I doing? Please email me at: Samanthalee25@yahoo.com Thanks!! Comment from Addie on October 1, 2005
Here are some easy cheats that I use every day in the sims 2. Comment from Robyn on October 1, 2005
Comment from Starr on October 2, 2005
To get the Tombstone of Life and Death you first start out in your neiborhood and enter the code, boolprop testingcheatsenabled true, then you go into which ever house you want. Then when your playing a sim, hold down the shift button and click the sim you have with the mouse. Afterwards a lot of choices with come up, and one of them is "Spawn". Click it. Then there will be a choice that says "Tombstone L and D". And the tombstone will appear. Comment from Robyn on October 2, 2005
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Comment from SweetiePie on October 2, 2005
Whittnie, to get the teenagers pregnant, do you have to do it with a male in your family? I click on the tombstone with my female teenager, but I don't have the choice of Get Pregnant With, I want her to have a baby with a neighbor, but I can't control him. Stella, S2L_TEEN_WOOHO_PREG_TEEN doesn't work. Or am I doing it wrong? Comment from SweetiePie on October 2, 2005
Comment from SweetiePie on October 2, 2005
Robyn, try doing boolprop testingcheatsenabled true when your playing your family, then hold down shift, and left click on your sim. Then click spawn, and go to "Tombstone of L and D" Comment from SweetiePie on October 3, 2005
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Comment from Stella on October 3, 2005
teens can get pregnant ive seen stories on ea.com where they did but i dontknow how. make sure the house is clean and the grades of everyone in house are up to A+ before the Head comes over ;) Comment from SweetiePie on October 4, 2005
Comment from Starr on October 4, 2005
The only way I know how to get a teen pregnant is to get a special pack for the game that lets you do things like that. I tried getting mine pregnant my making it an adult female then switching back to a teen but it didn't work. The baby just disappeared. Comment from Stella on October 4, 2005
Comment from Bethan_c on October 7, 2005
Hiya evry1 thanx 4 all the info n the cheats!!!!! I have also tried the twinsr2cute cheat n so far it hasnt worked n iv been really disapointed :( I just thought id let u all know just incase you didnt already tht u can find out more cheats by bring up the cheat box and typing in Help then it shows you some ok cheats later guys Comment from Stella on October 8, 2005
Sure thing, Bethan_c. It's good to know that some people are reading previous comments instead of asking the same questions over and over. twinsr2cute I think is just a cheat that someone made up; I dont think it works, as it never has for me. But whatever. Comment from SweetiePie on October 8, 2005
I don't think there is a cheat for having twins. I'm making a family, there last name is Crazy, and they have 6 kids! Comment from Kellison on October 8, 2005
this is how u get twins u type this in before u try for a baby intprop chanceoftwins 100 this really works i tried it last night and got twin boys i guarentee u tis will work. Comment from Robyn on October 8, 2005
Just go to www.modthesims2.com,I've got the triplets and quads pack it works great, just before the message comes up saying that there's a new baby on the way it asks you would you like to choose how many babies you like or would you like it to be random. If you really want a pregnant teen get the InTeenimater package from www.modthesims2.com.It allows teens to do all the same things adults can. And if you can't get boolprop testingCheatsEnabled true to work, then get the InSIMenator package.I hope this will help. Comment from Stella on October 9, 2005
Thanks, Robyn, that helps bigtime, and will do in two months when i can go home. sniff i'm so homesick. Anyhoo. Comment from Stella on October 12, 2005
SweetiePie: Comment from Stella on October 12, 2005
Oh, hey, guys? This is a totally random question. But does anyone know how to set up a website that people can do chat-ma-bobbits like this on? I'm no good at html so if anyone could give me a hand I'd be much abliged. Thanks a billion. Just click on my name and give me an email with "WaterCoolerGames" as the subject so I don't delete it, thank you guys so much you're the best. Comment from SweetiePie on October 15, 2005
Does anyone know if you go to www.modthesims.com, if it will mess up your computer. My step-dad works with computers and stuff and I don't know if I should do it or not. Comment from SweetiePie on October 15, 2005
My step-dad won't let me do stuff if it is taking a risk. I meant to say if you mod the sims, if it will do anything Comment from SweetiePie on October 16, 2005
Kellison, I tried intprop chanceoftwins 100 but it didn't work, I did it right before I tried for a baby, but it didn't work, do you put the spaces in it or what? Comment from Stella on October 17, 2005
SweetiePie: In dow nloading things there's always a risk. if your step-dad's really strict about it, i'd say its not worth it. regarding the twins cheatcode: if your going to use it, put it in right before she goes into labor. save as soon as she starts to scream, let her have whatever babies she's going to. if it's not what you want, go to neighborhood w/o saving and go back in again and put in the cheat. still it doesnt always work, but you'll have a bigger chance of getting what you want. Comment from kad on October 19, 2005
Comment from hey on October 19, 2005
hallo does anyone no how to dwnload (sucessfully) the package files? only SIMS2PACK files work on my comp, is summat wrong? Comment from SweetiePie on October 19, 2005
I need help!!! I got a new computer, but on my old computer and my brother had an ea.com name, so I didn't have to worry about it. So, I got a new one, and I got a new name. You have to Product Register your game (type in the # on the back of the CD case) but it won't let me Product Register 'cause someone had used that # before, it was my brother on his name. But my brother doesn't remember his name! If someone doesn't have a ea name already, will they give me that #? Please??!! I need help! Comment from on October 20, 2005
Comment from Stella on October 20, 2005
SweetiePie: i'm so sorry, but we're not supposed to give other people our game numbers, because it would kinda count the same as copying the game w/o paying for it, which is illegal. I know how you feel, but in this world where people can lie about stuff like this so easily, none of us can help. im sure you can get it for much cheaper now, if nothing else. I'm so, so, so sorry. Comment from Stella on October 20, 2005
But your brother would've written it down somewhere, right? or maybe . . . did you actually GET RID of the old computer yet? cos if not just reinstall it for long enough to get the name off it. OR EA offers the service if you forgot your password they'll email it to you, but only if you have an email set up w/ them, and only if you remember ur username. or if you forgot your username, type in the email address and they'll email you your username. If NOT, have your brother look through all his old mail until he gets to something EA sent him. That'll have the username in it. If he didnt have his email in their network, cant help you, and once again, I'm sorry. That's the best I can come up w/. hugs, and sympathies. Comment from SweetePie on October 20, 2005
That's OK. I kinda thought that. I tried having ea send my brother his user name, but it was a long time ago that he got his user name, and he has a different email now. Ya, I think we got rid of the old computer. My brother is soooooo messy, he would never find anything. Thanks for trying! Comment from SweetiePie on October 20, 2005
Does anyone know if you buy clothes for a toddler, is there anyway to plan his/her oufit so he/she changes into his/her clothes? I'm so sick of those toddler outfits! Comment from Stella on October 21, 2005
SweetiePie: regarding the toddler's outfits: unfortunatly (and this drives me inSANE) you can't plan outfit. if you want the toddler to wear something different, you have to buy the clothes before the baby becomes one. irritating, isn't it? Comment from Addie on October 22, 2005
Ok guys to get a teen pregnate all you have to do is get the tombstome of L and D. Then click on tthe tombstone and click on more until you see a choice that says get my sim pregnate and click on that. You will have to wait a sim day until you finally get pregnate. Comment from Stella on October 22, 2005
Addie: That doesn't work on teens, only on young adults and adults. sorry here's a fun cheat code for those of you who don't know it yet: boolprop snapobjectstogrid false Comment from lana on October 23, 2005
Comment from no on October 26, 2005
super no http://nosandbox.dynxs.org/7 no free http://nosandbox.dynxs.org/3 and .... free no http://nosandbox.dynxs.org/6 yes yes http://nosandbox.dynxs.org/4 no html http://nosandbox.dynxs.org/3 .Thanks. Comment from Cottie on October 26, 2005
Argh! did the boolprop testingcheatsenabled true cheat and fiddled around with it for ages and then I went to "go back to neighbourhood" but all the buttons were shaded. I couldn't save, go back to neughbourhood or even quit! I had to do Ctrl Alt Del. I lost everything I'd done *sob*. Why did this happen? How can I avoid it? Comment from Stella on October 31, 2005
AAH!!! What happened to my comment? I was responding to your comment, Cottie, and it went away. sniff. Come baaaaaaack. :'( oh well . . . Comment from maya on November 1, 2005
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Comment from ScorpioMuse on November 3, 2005
Same sex in SIMS2? Sure there is. Just last week I created 2 tall, dark,rocking, blonde hair, aqua eyed twin females. In my mind during thier birth, I figured they were to be my StrangeLand sluts LMAO...but just as I was creating their family connection, I noticed I could marry them. So I went for it!!! They are happy as lil clams together, except Milahs still sort of sluty with the neighbors. Comment from Stella on November 3, 2005
Or, ScorpioMuse, you could look to the adoption center or the boolprop cheat code, but of course that's up to you. But remember, girls can't get alien pregnant unless you use the boolprop cheatcode and the tombstone of l and d, because the aliens only seem to like guys . . . Comment from Jessica on November 4, 2005
Ok I have myself in a mixed up situation and I need help. This is what I did. I had a maried couple on Sims 2. I installed Sims Nighlife and I created a new sim female. I ran into the male sim while I was out and I started dating him. I ended up asking him to move in because that was the only purposal I had to pick from. Now he still has on his wedding ring and he lives with me and I still can't marry him. I was wondering is there anyway I can get him divorce from the other sim from Sims 2 so I can marry him? Comment from Stella on November 4, 2005
Jessica: If you moved the guy in, you can control him. Savvy so far (i love 'savvy') have him invite over his wife. Have her move in, then flirt w/ some guy while he's there. Do it again. He'll get jealous, relationship goes down, hit break up. Wife walks away and he's free for marriage. Don't do it the other way around or HE'LL walk away, and that wouldn't be good. Comment from Cottie on November 5, 2005
I found out why my computer went all funny... I did the boolprop cheat then every time I clicked on "die by flies" was when it went wrong. So now I just don't click on it anymore. Ooh I was having fun playing around with the tombstone of L and D btw, and I moved the maid Kaylyn into the house and put her with the husband. She had a baby girl. Then I made her pregnant again and realised she could have a baby with her daughter (which I made her do coz I'm weird like that) so I now have some veerryy complicated family trees. - I guess this is how you can make teens have babies - they can't get pregant but another woman can have a baby with them no matter what sex they are. cool... Comment from Stella on November 5, 2005
that's sooo weird Cottie. lol. I've done stuff like that before, though. Basis: I made a little girl who looked like Charlie's description, in Fire Starter, by Stephen King. She grew up to be absolutely beautiful, and I wanted her genes, undilluted, so I had her have a baby with herself. Boy. I wanted a girl, so I had her have a baby with her son, girl. Girl's name is Stacie, and she looks just like her daddy, who looks just like her mommy and her grammy. soooo wierd. She's really pretty, and I'm going to put one just like her on ea.com when I get back to the USA. Comment from hytr on November 7, 2005
Comment from Stella on November 7, 2005
hytr: there is no way to have twins for sure. There is, as above stated near-countless times, a cheat code: intprop chanceoftwins 100 which improves your chances for having twins. twinsr2cute may or may not work; I'm no longer passing judgement on that one. Or you can have the first baby normally, use the t of l and d to get the woman pregnant immediatly afterwards and speed up her pregnancy. Can someone pleaseplease answer: why does everyone want twins sooo badly???? Comment from sonnet? on November 10, 2005
How can you keep your children sims from getting fat? They obviously can't work out.. I thought my sims' daughter was plenty active, but her belly suddenly plumped up. What can I do to get her back into shape? Comment from Dollymixture on November 11, 2005
Comment from Stella on November 11, 2005
sonnet?: kids can work out using a stereo. Dollymixture: that's an old debate that's not really going on anymore as far as i can tell. people are just using this site to discuss cheatcodes etc on the sims Comment from cottie on November 11, 2005
Twins are nothing special, Ive had four sets in the last two months without using any cheats - prob coz I play practically 24/7. It's just another kid... Of course you have to hire about four nannies to keep care of them because two is obvously much harder than one lol. Comment from layten on November 11, 2005
you know what's really funny? I get bored playing with some of the families so I often leave them on a really long hiatus while I play with others, and I often have it so that a guy is younger than his great great great great grandchildren, it's rather weird... and a little of topic I guess... apologies... Comment from Stella on November 12, 2005
Cottie: I agree. just another kid, and sometime quite irritating to take care of at that. Comment from cottie on November 13, 2005
I hate it when my sims get old, I get so attatched to some of them that I just can't stand to see them become oldies. It makes me feel upset, so I often just send them into a swimming pool and let them drown. sigh, it's a good way to go. I got so close to one sim once that I actually cried when I sent her out to the pool, I wanted her young and beautiful again but here she was old and useless and everyone hated her. Death was a mercy for her in the end. Comment from dave on November 13, 2005
when you create a sim, they are automatically heterosexual. you have to make them become attracted to members of the same sex. Comment from Addie on November 13, 2005
Comment from cottie on November 13, 2005
I did that, Addie, was messing around with the 'Pleasant' family and got them all nto a bad mood with one another. Arguments, fights and Llian (the teen) just walked out. I'm not sure what she is doing now as I haven't seen her since. Comment from Stella on November 14, 2005
Addie: teen sims run away when they have really low relationships w/ everyone in the house. Cottie: I totally agree. I hate it when sims die in the sims 2, and I had this couple . . . the guy was so hot, with really strong cheekbones and dark eyes, and the mom looked just like me only dressed up completely punk, but their kids turned out badly. I killed them both young so they'd be really cool forever, and their ghosts came out every night. The girl, Giovanne, was the last one in seven generations of girls who looked like me. Her kids all had brown eyes, so it had to stop there. Waa Comment from meagan on December 1, 2005
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hey, hmm i need a serious HELP!!!! PLEASE HELP ME!!! Comment from Maybe it works on December 8, 2005
Comment from freak on December 9, 2005
okay besides getting caught cheating on ur spouse you can do it real quick by going cntrl+shift+c then type boolprop testingcheatsEnabled true then click in the sim hold down shift and click make furious with this sim they will then immediatly be able to break up if anyone HAS ANY SIM PROBLEMS EMAIL ME IM PREETY CLUED UP ON GAME PROBLEMS AND I KNOW TONNES OF CHEATS IM ONLY 2 HAPPY 2 HELP HAPPY SIMING Comment from Tara on December 10, 2005
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